Protágoras (Alma Mater) (Spanish and Ancient Greek Edition)
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- Language
- Spanish
- Published
- 2022
- Publisher
- Consejo Superior de Investigaciones Cientificas
- Pages
- 560
- ISBN
- 9788400083526
Witness a pivotal intellectual clash in ancient Athens as Socrates engages Protagoras, the era's most renowned sophist, in a profound inquiry into human excellence. Benjamin Jowett's classic translation brings to life this foundational Platonic dialogue, where the central question takes root: Is virtue a teachable art, or is it an inherent quality?
As a hopeful young man seeks to learn the path to civic and personal success from Protagoras, Socrates meticulously dissects the very essence of virtues like justice, temperance, and courage, probing whether they are distinct attributes or facets of a single, unified goodness. This enduring work illuminates the power of philosophical discourse to challenge assumptions and redefine our understanding of morality, inviting readers to participate in a timeless quest for wisdom and the foundations of a well-lived life.
As a hopeful young man seeks to learn the path to civic and personal success from Protagoras, Socrates meticulously dissects the very essence of virtues like justice, temperance, and courage, probing whether they are distinct attributes or facets of a single, unified goodness. This enduring work illuminates the power of philosophical discourse to challenge assumptions and redefine our understanding of morality, inviting readers to participate in a timeless quest for wisdom and the foundations of a well-lived life.
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Plato: ProtagorasOriginally published in 1956 English Pearson
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The pre-dawn light had barely touched the Athenian rooftops when young Hippocrates, son of Apollodorus, burst into my chambers, breathless with excitement. "Protagoras is in town!" he exclaimed, his voice hushed with awe. This Protagoras, he explained, was the wisest man alive, and Hippocrates yearned to become his pupil, to learn from the celebrated sophist. I, Socrates, cautioned him, for to entrust one's soul to a sophist was a serious matter, far graver than entrusting one's body to a physician, and one ought to know what such a master would make of him.
Our journey led us to the house of Callias, a man renowned for his lavish spending on sophists. There, we found a vibrant assembly: Protagoras himself, walking with a train of admirers, among them the sons of Pericles, Charmides, and the young Alcibiades, whose first beard was just beginning to show. Also present were other distinguished sophists, Hippias of Elis and Prodicus of Ceos, each holding court in different corners of the grand dwelling. It was a spectacle of intellect and ambition, a gathering of the finest minds and the most eager students of Athens.
When I finally approached Protagoras, I laid bare Hippocrates' desire and my own fundamental question: "What will Hippocrates become by associating with you?" Protagoras, with a confident air, declared that he would make Hippocrates a better and wiser man, teaching him "prudence in affairs private and public; in short, the science or knowledge of human life." This, I admitted, was a noble profession, but I expressed my doubts about the teachability of virtue. How could it be taught, I wondered, when Athenians, wise as they were, did not teach political virtue to their own sons, and when in the assembly, they listened to anyone on matters of state, not just those with specialized training?
Protagoras, to address my skepticism, chose to unfold his argument not through mere dialectic, but with a grand myth, followed by a reasoned account. He recounted how, after the gods had fashioned all living things, Epimetheus, in his haste, distributed all the natural qualities to the animals, leaving man naked and defenseless. Prometheus, seeing man's plight, stole fire and the mechanical arts from the gods, bestowing them upon humanity. Yet, men still lacked the political art, the ability to live together in cities, and so Zeus, fearing their destruction, sent Hermes to impart Justice and Reverence to all mankind, not just a select few. This, Protagoras argued, proved that political virtue was indeed a universal human endowment, and therefore, teachable.
Our discussion then narrowed, focusing on whether virtue was a single, unified quality or comprised of distinct, separable parts like justice, temperance, piety, wisdom, and courage. Protagoras initially maintained that these were distinct, though connected, qualities, much like the parts of a face. He conceded that courage, in particular, seemed to exist independently of wisdom, citing examples of courageous but ignorant individuals. However, through my persistent questioning, I led him to consider the nature of each virtue, examining their opposites and their interrelations.
We delved into the thorny matter of whether pleasure was the only good, and pain the only evil. I argued that no one willingly chooses evil over good, or pain over pleasure, except through ignorance. If all wrongdoing stemmed from a miscalculation of pleasure and pain, then virtue, or the avoidance of evil, must be a form of knowledge - an "art of measurement" that correctly weighs consequences. This line of reasoning began to subtly shift Protagoras's initial position, much to the amusement and occasional frustration of our audience.
The conversation grew heated at times, with Protagoras preferring lengthy expositions and I, short, pointed questions, leading to a brief interlude where others interceded to ensure the debate continued. Yet, as the discussion wound to its close, a curious reversal had taken place. I, who had begun by doubting the teachability of virtue, found myself arguing that if virtue was knowledge, it must indeed be teachable. Protagoras, on the other hand, who had championed the teachability of virtue, had, through the force of my arguments, been led to emphasize the distinctness of the virtues, almost implying they were not reducible to knowledge and thus perhaps not teachable in the way he initially conceived. We parted with a sense of mutual respect, Protagoras acknowledging my formidable dialectical skill, and I, regretting that we could not delve further into the essence of virtue itself.
Our journey led us to the house of Callias, a man renowned for his lavish spending on sophists. There, we found a vibrant assembly: Protagoras himself, walking with a train of admirers, among them the sons of Pericles, Charmides, and the young Alcibiades, whose first beard was just beginning to show. Also present were other distinguished sophists, Hippias of Elis and Prodicus of Ceos, each holding court in different corners of the grand dwelling. It was a spectacle of intellect and ambition, a gathering of the finest minds and the most eager students of Athens.
When I finally approached Protagoras, I laid bare Hippocrates' desire and my own fundamental question: "What will Hippocrates become by associating with you?" Protagoras, with a confident air, declared that he would make Hippocrates a better and wiser man, teaching him "prudence in affairs private and public; in short, the science or knowledge of human life." This, I admitted, was a noble profession, but I expressed my doubts about the teachability of virtue. How could it be taught, I wondered, when Athenians, wise as they were, did not teach political virtue to their own sons, and when in the assembly, they listened to anyone on matters of state, not just those with specialized training?
Protagoras, to address my skepticism, chose to unfold his argument not through mere dialectic, but with a grand myth, followed by a reasoned account. He recounted how, after the gods had fashioned all living things, Epimetheus, in his haste, distributed all the natural qualities to the animals, leaving man naked and defenseless. Prometheus, seeing man's plight, stole fire and the mechanical arts from the gods, bestowing them upon humanity. Yet, men still lacked the political art, the ability to live together in cities, and so Zeus, fearing their destruction, sent Hermes to impart Justice and Reverence to all mankind, not just a select few. This, Protagoras argued, proved that political virtue was indeed a universal human endowment, and therefore, teachable.
Our discussion then narrowed, focusing on whether virtue was a single, unified quality or comprised of distinct, separable parts like justice, temperance, piety, wisdom, and courage. Protagoras initially maintained that these were distinct, though connected, qualities, much like the parts of a face. He conceded that courage, in particular, seemed to exist independently of wisdom, citing examples of courageous but ignorant individuals. However, through my persistent questioning, I led him to consider the nature of each virtue, examining their opposites and their interrelations.
We delved into the thorny matter of whether pleasure was the only good, and pain the only evil. I argued that no one willingly chooses evil over good, or pain over pleasure, except through ignorance. If all wrongdoing stemmed from a miscalculation of pleasure and pain, then virtue, or the avoidance of evil, must be a form of knowledge - an "art of measurement" that correctly weighs consequences. This line of reasoning began to subtly shift Protagoras's initial position, much to the amusement and occasional frustration of our audience.
The conversation grew heated at times, with Protagoras preferring lengthy expositions and I, short, pointed questions, leading to a brief interlude where others interceded to ensure the debate continued. Yet, as the discussion wound to its close, a curious reversal had taken place. I, who had begun by doubting the teachability of virtue, found myself arguing that if virtue was knowledge, it must indeed be teachable. Protagoras, on the other hand, who had championed the teachability of virtue, had, through the force of my arguments, been led to emphasize the distinctness of the virtues, almost implying they were not reducible to knowledge and thus perhaps not teachable in the way he initially conceived. We parted with a sense of mutual respect, Protagoras acknowledging my formidable dialectical skill, and I, regretting that we could not delve further into the essence of virtue itself.
What other readers say
Liked
This collection receives praise for its valuable philosophical content, particularly highlighting Alcibiades I and Letter VII as significant and thought-provoking texts. Reviewers consistently laud the quality of the introductory studies and scholarly analyses, with Francisco Lisi's contributions frequently singled out as formidable, well-executed, and often more engaging than the primary dialogues themselves. The historical context provided, which explores the intriguing phenomenon of numerous texts being attributed to Plato, is considered important for distinguishing authentic works from apocrypha. The book is also noted for its historical value, shedding light on the reception and expansion of Platonic ideas, and the overall edition, including translation, is generally regarded as good, especially concerning the introductions. Even in less accomplished dialogues, Plato's treatment of political systems is found to be interesting and reflective.
Disliked
However, a significant point of criticism is that many of the included dialogues and letters are perceived as uninteresting, poorly executed, or clearly apocryphal, leading to a sense of disappointment among readers. Reviewers often felt that the book's primary value resided in its supplementary material, such as the introductions and studies, rather than the core texts, with some dialogues described as not among Plato's most accomplished works. The quality of the notes received mixed feedback, with at least one reviewer finding them unhelpful. Additionally, a physical quality issue was mentioned, with the ink reportedly smudging easily. For some, the collection felt akin to an accumulation of less significant or even inauthentic works.
In short
In conclusion, this book presents a mixed experience. Its greatest strength lies in its comprehensive scholarly apparatus, offering crucial insights into the complexities of the Platonic corpus and the challenges of textual authenticity. While the inclusion of many less engaging or inauthentic dialogues and letters might disappoint some, the book is highly recommended for serious students of philosophy, classicists, and scholars interested in the history of Platonic thought and the critical distinction between genuine and apocryphal works. It serves as a valuable resource for those who appreciate detailed scholarly analysis and historical context, rather than a collection of Plato's most celebrated or accessible writings.
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